gooood团队采访世界各地的有趣创意人，欢迎您的推荐和建议。本期为访谈专辑番外篇，gooood采访了瑞士建筑师 Valerio Olgiati 团队，了解他们对于形式、材料、结构等建筑基本问题的理解和看法。更多关于他们，请至：Valerio Olgiati on gooood

gooood team interviews creative from all over the world. Your recommendations and suggestions are welcomed! In this extra episode, gooood interviewed the office team of Valerio Olgiati to see their ideas in basic architectural issues, such as form, material, structure, etc . More: Valerio Olgiati on gooood

出品人：向玲 Producer: Xiang Ling
编辑团队：向玲，武晨曦，陈诺嘉，刘丹阳，张学，历剑，李诗蓉，韦紫昭 Editor: Xiang Ling, Wu Chenxi, Chen Nuojia, Liu Danyang, Zhang Xue, Li Jian, Li Shirong, Wei Zizhao
该访谈问题由 Valerio Olgiati 团队回答
Answers by the office team of VALERIO OLGIATI

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gooood x Valerio Olgiati

如何看待形式？
What do you think of FORM?

一直以来，我们都致力于通过建筑空间的形式来创造有意义的空间体验，而所有的空间形式都来源于设计概念。形式永远不能代表已建成的图像，它不是一个符号，更不应该为不合理的设计构思负责。只有通过切身的体验，我们才能真正地了解空间。从这个角度来讲，形式实际上是一种建筑语汇，以便于建筑师表达自己的设计初衷。在当代世界中，建筑师确实需要一种独特的语言去创造一个他们自己的宇宙，从而在建筑领域中找到一个明确的自我定位。

We strive to make form generated from an idea to create an experience of space that makes sense. Form should never represent a constructed image, a symbol or an irrational idea. Only through the physical qualities of a building can we understand its architecture. For that reason form is the architectural language that expresses the intention of the author. In our contemporary world an architect needs a distinct language to create an own universe and consequently develop a relevant position in architecture.

▼Valerio Olgiati事务所部分项目一览，selected projects by Valerio Olgiati

如何看待材料？
What do you think of MATERIALS?

在建筑设计的进程中，材料进一步加强了设计概念与最终建筑之间的连贯性，因为就像形式一样，材料能够更加精准地表达建筑的设计概念和建筑师的意图。材料的选择必须基于设计概念。因此，只有当一种材料能够最为精确地将设计概念转换为实体建筑，我们才能说这个材料的选择是正确的。

Materials offer an opportunity for further coherence when creating architecture because like form, it can give a precise formulation of the building’s idea and the intention of the architect. The basis of the choice of the material must be the idea. So, it only makes sense that a single material gives the building the ability to translate the idea most precisely.

如何看待纹理和颜色？
What do you think of TEXTURE and COLOR?

我们的大多数建筑都是由混凝土建造而成的。混凝土这种材料给了我们改变纹理和颜色的机会。混凝土的纹理不仅在概念设计阶段表达了空间的体验，更在建造方式上突出了建筑的特性。而混凝土的颜色则赋予了建筑某种特定的含义。形象一点来说，我们用红褐色的混凝土来代表那些从土地上生长出来的建筑。我们希望这些建筑看起来并不是人为刻意设计的，这就需要一种更加狂和朴实的表达方式。而白色的混凝土则更多地代表着一种秩序和逻辑，它意味着一种发明创造、一个概念和一次启蒙。

Most of our buildings are made out of concrete. This material gives us the possibility to vary the texture and color. The concrete texture physically expresses the building, not only in the experience of the idea but in the way it has been constructed. The concrete color defines a specific character for the building. For us, the reddish-brown concrete makes reference to buildings that, figuratively speaking, grow out of the ground. These are buildings that were not born in the brain and are more wild and earthy in expression. On the other hand, the use of white concrete is based on a more disciplined intellect and expresses an invention, an idea and enlightenment.

▼阿姆莱别墅，褐色混凝土如同从地面生长出来（点击这里查看更多），Villa Além, the concrete material was like growing from the earth (click HERE to view more)

▼Bardill工作室，采用带有图案的红色混凝土（点击这里查看更多），Atelier Bardill, composed of red in-situ concrete (click HERE to view more)

▼Plantahof 礼堂，白色混凝土更有秩序（点击这里查看更多），Plantahof Auditorium composed of white concrete, which was more disciplined (click HERE to view more)

如何看待结构？如何将结构与建筑设计融合起来？
What do you think of STRUCTURE and how do you use it in your design?

要将一个设计概念转变为真实存在的建筑，就需要对建筑的结构概念有一个精确的构想。结构体系必须被整合到建筑的秩序中去。对于建筑及其设计概念来说，它必须是一种基础的、富有逻辑的、经济的存在。建筑结构的意义在于将不同的建筑元素系统与其各自的结构任务整合在一起。我们一直在探索：如果建筑的各个元素之间完全没有一致性，那么最终的建筑空间会给人一种怎样的感受（尽管这些元素仍然共同组成了一个完整的建筑体量）。事实上，较低的结构一致性反而会赋予建筑一种独特性，因为正是这种矛盾性促使着人们思考建筑。

To work with an idea requires a precise imagination of the structural concept of the building. The structure needs to be integrated into the architectonic order of the building. It has to be fundamental, logical and economic for the building and its idea. Building structures always try to conform the system of different building elements and their structural tasks. We are very much fascinated if there is no conformity between building elements in an extreme way despite the fact that they all form part of one system. As a matter of fact, it is better if there is a low degree of conformity in the structure because it is exactly that contradiction that makes people think about buildings.

▼Pearling Path博物馆及文化遗址入口，不一致的结构元素引人思考（点击这里查看更多），Museum and entrance to the Pearling Path, contradictory structural elements make people think about buildings (click HERE to view more)

▼楚格环道住宅楼（点击这里查看更多），Residential building Zug Schleife (click HERE to view more)

如何看待空间？如何创造空间？
What do you think of SPACE and how do you CREATE SPACE?

建筑最美妙的特点在于人们可以切身体验它的空间。这种空间体验是当一个人进入一个房间时、或是从外部看一座建筑时的所见和所感。建筑师是空间体验的主动创造者。这种空间体验可以说是一种未经雕琢的材料，任何一座建筑都必须对其进行设计和处理。因此，我们通过设计造型、墙体、柱子、地板、天花板、材料、光、纹理、声学等一切能够影响人们切身感受的建筑构件，来赋予空间一种精确的物理特性。在我们看来，建筑师的责任之一就是思考和创造空间。空间通过自身的存在赋予了建筑物在主观意义上的普世效度。

The best thing about buildings is that you can physically experience its spaces. Experience of space is what a person encounters and feels when entering a room or looking at a building from the outside. The architect is the active shaper of the experience of space. Such experience of space is a ‘raw’ material with which any building must deal. We do this by giving the space a precise physical formulation in terms of its shape and its walls, columns, floor, ceiling, material, light, texture, acoustics and all of the other qualities that engage a person’s sense. We understand the role of an architect as one who thinks and creates space. Spaces give buildings – by means of their presence – subjective universal validity.

▼Céline旗舰店，多种元素创造独特的空间体验（点击这里查看更多），Céline Flagship Store, space created by various elements (click HERE to view more)

▼Zernez 国家公园游客中心（点击这里查看更多），Zernez National Park Visitor Center (click HERE to view more)

设计之初会经历哪些思考过程并确定思考结束可以开始设计？
Could you describe your design THINKING PROCEDURE after receiving a commission and how do you settle on an idea to start the design?

在每个项目的伊始，最重要的是概念的选定及其表达方式。在我们着手于设计之前，我们会一直找寻一个合适的概念，并尽可能地发展其表现形式。你们应该可以想象到，我们围着办公室的桌子坐成一圈探讨项目，探讨建筑可能性，探讨建筑本身的概念。因此，当一座建筑被设计出来后，我们甚至可以用文字来描述它，我们可以描述它的设计概念和建筑意图。只有当我们可以解释为什么要这么做的时候，我们中的某个人才会开始绘制整个项目的精细的电脑图纸。这么做的好处是，在图纸绘制的最初阶段便，我们便可以清晰且具有逻辑性地表达设计概念和意图，这使得建筑更具概念性，因为它诞生于一种清晰的、组织缜密的建筑语汇中。

At the beginning of each commission it is above all about the formulation of the idea. Before we make even one line on paper, we are looking for an idea and then developing its formulation. To imagine, in the office we all sit around a table and talk about projects, about architectural possibilities, about the idea of architecture itself. When the building is then invented, we can describe it in words, we can describe the idea and its architectural intent. Only when we are at the stage that we can explain the aim, will one of us begin to depict exact computer drawings of the whole building. The fact that we can articulate it intellectually from the outset makes the architecture even more conceptual because we give birth to it in the realm of an intellectually articulated language.

▼Valerio Olgiati事务所绘制的项目图纸，清晰而精细，clear and exact project drawings

我们希望能够在一种尽可能一致且纯粹的意义上，通过自己设计出来的建筑来表达一些真正的、具有普适性的、真实的东西。这个真实的东西不是肤浅的美或丑，也不是单纯的杂乱或齐整，更不会简单地界定一个事物是否是生态的，它是一种更具意义的存在。

With our architecture, we aim to express something which is genuine, as general as possible and as close to the truth – in the sense of consistent and pure as possible. And the truth is neither beautiful nor ugly, neither chaotic nor neat, neither ecological nor non-ecological, but meaningful.

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